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		<title>Comment on On the High Strangeness surrounding Andrea Rossi&#8217;s e-cat technology by Bruce</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bruno - You certainly may be right, but that also could be from a linear, left-brained interpretation. The process of the mind determining what it can hold as true operates under the purview of the High Strangeness, IMO. It begs the question of whether collective belief actually does affect reality.

As to the idea that the Chinese are outside of the Elite consensus, I find that ultimately improbable other than as controlled opposition (as in available to engage in a depopulating shooting war). They would, most likely, be the last to want ample energy resources available to their population, who could then move toward real independence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruno &#8211; You certainly may be right, but that also could be from a linear, left-brained interpretation. The process of the mind determining what it can hold as true operates under the purview of the High Strangeness, IMO. It begs the question of whether collective belief actually does affect reality.</p>
<p>As to the idea that the Chinese are outside of the Elite consensus, I find that ultimately improbable other than as controlled opposition (as in available to engage in a depopulating shooting war). They would, most likely, be the last to want ample energy resources available to their population, who could then move toward real independence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the High Strangeness surrounding Andrea Rossi&#8217;s e-cat technology by Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the &quot;elites&quot; are holding back this technology, then just give it to the Chinese. The &#039;elites&quot; which supposedly control everything in the West have no sway in China. Big Oil and Big Finance don&#039;t control the dialog there. That government HATES being dependent on imported oil and would jump on LENR if it proved to be real and practical. That government will do whatever it takes to make China stronger and more independent, unlike our corrupted leaders. At this point, my betting money is on Ecat being a scam. Too much water has passed under the bridge. Too much time. Too many (intentionally?) missed opportunities to prove its validity once and for all. Too many ballyhooed tests that turn out to be technically flawed in ways that a good senior year college engineering student would know to avoid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8220;elites&#8221; are holding back this technology, then just give it to the Chinese. The &#8216;elites&#8221; which supposedly control everything in the West have no sway in China. Big Oil and Big Finance don&#8217;t control the dialog there. That government HATES being dependent on imported oil and would jump on LENR if it proved to be real and practical. That government will do whatever it takes to make China stronger and more independent, unlike our corrupted leaders. At this point, my betting money is on Ecat being a scam. Too much water has passed under the bridge. Too much time. Too many (intentionally?) missed opportunities to prove its validity once and for all. Too many ballyhooed tests that turn out to be technically flawed in ways that a good senior year college engineering student would know to avoid.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Pledge Allegiance by Scott McRae</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 07:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Bruce! I knew I liked you from your posts on the Genesis2 forum. But this gives me a whole new appreciation of you. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. Thank you :)

By the way I&#039;m Buddhist. Of the Theravada tradition.

May you be well.

Scott McRae
(Truthquester)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Bruce! I knew I liked you from your posts on the Genesis2 forum. But this gives me a whole new appreciation of you. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. Thank you <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>By the way I&#8217;m Buddhist. Of the Theravada tradition.</p>
<p>May you be well.</p>
<p>Scott McRae<br />
(Truthquester)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the Calif. &#8220;Cracking the Code&#8221; discussion list ENTIRELY OFF TOPIC?! by Herby Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herby Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 03:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Universe is not made of atoms, it is made of stories. It never ceases to amaze me the feeling I get when I come to terms with learning a long accepted story is just not true. Thanks for revealing the worm holes that will help us get to the bottom of this rotten apple. I truly appreciate learning from you, Bruce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Universe is not made of atoms, it is made of stories. It never ceases to amaze me the feeling I get when I come to terms with learning a long accepted story is just not true. Thanks for revealing the worm holes that will help us get to the bottom of this rotten apple. I truly appreciate learning from you, Bruce.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Debra Rae: Believer Raps Eckhart Tolle Bigtime by Bryant</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Esoteric - . 	understood by or meant for only the select few who have special knowledge or interest; recondite: poetry full of esoteric allusions.
2. 	belonging to the select few.
3. 	private; secret; confidential.
4. 	(of a philosophical doctrine or the like) intended to be revealed only to the initiates of a group: the esoteric doctrines of Pythagoras. 

 The Lord said, &quot;I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not to the seed of Jacob, Seek you me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.&quot;

Paul said,  &quot;I have become its (the church&#039;s)servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in all its fullness -the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, But IS NOW DISCLOSED to the saints. To them God has chosen to MAKE KNOWN among the Gentiles (all the people of the world)the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.&quot;

There is no &quot;secret&quot; doctrine. It has been revealed by the apostles of Jesus Christ. Accept their witness. They knew him and said,&quot;That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
[2] (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
[3] That which we have seen and heard DECLARE WE UNTO YOU, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.&quot; Blavatsky, Tolle, Bailey, etc. can they say this?

Paul also said, &quot;But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.&quot;

Blavatsky says, So little have the first Christians (who despoiled the Jews of their Bible) understood the first four chapters of Genesis in their esoteric meaning, that they never perceived that not only was no sin intended in this disobedience, but that actually the “Serpent” was “the Lord God” himself, who, as the Ophis, the Logos, or the bearer of divine creative wisdom, taught mankind to become creators in their turn.‡ They never realised that the Cross was an evolution from the “tree and the serpent,” and thus became the salvation of mankind.
VOL. 2, PAGE  215  The Secret Doctrine

Compare that with the above witness of a man who saw Jesus and had fellowship with the apostles. 

Blavatsky continues, &quot;And now it stands proven that Satan, or the Red Fiery Dragon, the “Lord of Phosphorus” (brimstone was a theological improvement), and Lucifer, or “Light-Bearer,” is in us: it is our Mind — our tempter and Redeemer, our intelligent liberator and Saviour from pure animalism. VOL. 2, PAGE  513 The Secret Doctrine

So, Lucifer is Satan and Satan is Lucifer. Stop believing them when they say Satan is a myth.

Jesus, the real Christ, and all the apostles affirm the reality that Satan is our ADVERSARY, not our liberator and savior. He is an intelligent entity, not a state of mind.

Bailey says, &quot;Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means light-bearer.&quot; From the Lucis Trust website (aka Lucifer Publishing Company).

Paul again says, &quot;And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.&quot;

So, the woman was DECEIVED, meaning the SERPENT (from nachash - the shining enchanter)DECEIVED her - caused her to SIN. No esoteric meaning here, just straight forward TRUTH. 

The New Age is DECEPTION from the Shining Enchanter (Lucifer, the serpent, Satan, the devil - the adversary) tempting you with the same old lie - &quot; And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, AND YOU SHALL BE AS GODS ...&quot;

One final witness from the true LIGHT of the world - the Lord of Truth: Jesus said, making refernece to the serpent from the garden &quot;Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING (in the garden), and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks he speakes a LIE, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.&quot;

This is the god of the New Age. 

And He loses:

&quot;And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, that he should deceive the nations no more.&quot; (Revelation 20:2).

&quot;For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for SATAN HIMSELF IS TRANSFORMED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.&quot;

Resist then in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and they will flee from you and you will know true peace. May God, the Father, bless you with all wisdom concerning this matter through Jesus Christ, his ONLY Begotten Son (his one of a kind, unique above all others, SON).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esoteric &#8211; . 	understood by or meant for only the select few who have special knowledge or interest; recondite: poetry full of esoteric allusions.<br />
2. 	belonging to the select few.<br />
3. 	private; secret; confidential.<br />
4. 	(of a philosophical doctrine or the like) intended to be revealed only to the initiates of a group: the esoteric doctrines of Pythagoras. </p>
<p> The Lord said, &#8220;I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not to the seed of Jacob, Seek you me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paul said,  &#8220;I have become its (the church&#8217;s)servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in all its fullness -the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, But IS NOW DISCLOSED to the saints. To them God has chosen to MAKE KNOWN among the Gentiles (all the people of the world)the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;secret&#8221; doctrine. It has been revealed by the apostles of Jesus Christ. Accept their witness. They knew him and said,&#8221;That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;<br />
[2] (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)<br />
[3] That which we have seen and heard DECLARE WE UNTO YOU, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.&#8221; Blavatsky, Tolle, Bailey, etc. can they say this?</p>
<p>Paul also said, &#8220;But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>Blavatsky says, So little have the first Christians (who despoiled the Jews of their Bible) understood the first four chapters of Genesis in their esoteric meaning, that they never perceived that not only was no sin intended in this disobedience, but that actually the “Serpent” was “the Lord God” himself, who, as the Ophis, the Logos, or the bearer of divine creative wisdom, taught mankind to become creators in their turn.‡ They never realised that the Cross was an evolution from the “tree and the serpent,” and thus became the salvation of mankind.<br />
VOL. 2, PAGE  215  The Secret Doctrine</p>
<p>Compare that with the above witness of a man who saw Jesus and had fellowship with the apostles. </p>
<p>Blavatsky continues, &#8220;And now it stands proven that Satan, or the Red Fiery Dragon, the “Lord of Phosphorus” (brimstone was a theological improvement), and Lucifer, or “Light-Bearer,” is in us: it is our Mind — our tempter and Redeemer, our intelligent liberator and Saviour from pure animalism. VOL. 2, PAGE  513 The Secret Doctrine</p>
<p>So, Lucifer is Satan and Satan is Lucifer. Stop believing them when they say Satan is a myth.</p>
<p>Jesus, the real Christ, and all the apostles affirm the reality that Satan is our ADVERSARY, not our liberator and savior. He is an intelligent entity, not a state of mind.</p>
<p>Bailey says, &#8220;Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means light-bearer.&#8221; From the Lucis Trust website (aka Lucifer Publishing Company).</p>
<p>Paul again says, &#8220;And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, the woman was DECEIVED, meaning the SERPENT (from nachash &#8211; the shining enchanter)DECEIVED her &#8211; caused her to SIN. No esoteric meaning here, just straight forward TRUTH. </p>
<p>The New Age is DECEPTION from the Shining Enchanter (Lucifer, the serpent, Satan, the devil &#8211; the adversary) tempting you with the same old lie &#8211; &#8221; And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, AND YOU SHALL BE AS GODS &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>One final witness from the true LIGHT of the world &#8211; the Lord of Truth: Jesus said, making refernece to the serpent from the garden &#8220;Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING (in the garden), and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks he speakes a LIE, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the god of the New Age. </p>
<p>And He loses:</p>
<p>&#8220;And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, that he should deceive the nations no more.&#8221; (Revelation 20:2).</p>
<p>&#8220;For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for SATAN HIMSELF IS TRANSFORMED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.&#8221;</p>
<p>Resist then in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and they will flee from you and you will know true peace. May God, the Father, bless you with all wisdom concerning this matter through Jesus Christ, his ONLY Begotten Son (his one of a kind, unique above all others, SON).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waking Up Is Hard to Do(?) by John</title>
		<link>http://berealtruth.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/waking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been observing the &quot;health care debate&quot; with some interest... and I have reached the conclusion that this agenda is being put forward now for several interrelated reasons.  

First and foremost, it furthers the sense of division.  It&#039;s US and Them, baby!... And if you don&#039;t know who They are, well, you know the rest!...  Keep &#039;em divided.  And, of course, keep everyone focused on a mechanistic, resource-limited view of health and wellness.  Let&#039;s all remember who our enemies are... all together now, &quot;Anyone who does not look, think, work, live, consume, or worship like I do is the OTHER and, perforce, a threat.&quot;  Focus on Fears.  They&#039;re not just for breakfast any more!!

Bread and Circuses... It&#039;s a really great show, isn&#039;t it?  Protesters carrying guns...  Shouts of &quot;socialism&quot;... God fearin&#039; good folk just wantin&#039; things to be how the Founders (TM) intended.

When you get right down to it, it&#039;s the ultimate reminder/reification of the YOYO society.  I got my healthcare (it&#039;s made out of people!!  IT&#039;S MADE OUT OF PEOPLE), and if you can&#039;t get yours, well...  God Bless and Goodnite!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been observing the &#8220;health care debate&#8221; with some interest&#8230; and I have reached the conclusion that this agenda is being put forward now for several interrelated reasons.  </p>
<p>First and foremost, it furthers the sense of division.  It&#8217;s US and Them, baby!&#8230; And if you don&#8217;t know who They are, well, you know the rest!&#8230;  Keep &#8216;em divided.  And, of course, keep everyone focused on a mechanistic, resource-limited view of health and wellness.  Let&#8217;s all remember who our enemies are&#8230; all together now, &#8220;Anyone who does not look, think, work, live, consume, or worship like I do is the OTHER and, perforce, a threat.&#8221;  Focus on Fears.  They&#8217;re not just for breakfast any more!!</p>
<p>Bread and Circuses&#8230; It&#8217;s a really great show, isn&#8217;t it?  Protesters carrying guns&#8230;  Shouts of &#8220;socialism&#8221;&#8230; God fearin&#8217; good folk just wantin&#8217; things to be how the Founders (TM) intended.</p>
<p>When you get right down to it, it&#8217;s the ultimate reminder/reification of the YOYO society.  I got my healthcare (it&#8217;s made out of people!!  IT&#8217;S MADE OUT OF PEOPLE), and if you can&#8217;t get yours, well&#8230;  God Bless and Goodnite!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are the Global Elite Fascist? by Robert Sterling</title>
		<link>http://berealtruth.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/are-the-global-elite-fascist/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Sterling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great work!  Keep me informed on your stuff!!!

Robert]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work!  Keep me informed on your stuff!!!</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Inconvenient Truthiness by morgellons</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Morgellons is a skin disorder that was first described more than 300 years ago. The disease is characterized by fiber-like strands extruding from the skin in conjunction with various dermatologic and neuropsychiatric symptoms. For support: http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgellons is a skin disorder that was first described more than 300 years ago. The disease is characterized by fiber-like strands extruding from the skin in conjunction with various dermatologic and neuropsychiatric symptoms. For support: <a href="http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Debra Rae: Believer Raps Eckhart Tolle Bigtime by brtanner</title>
		<link>http://berealtruth.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/debra-rae-believer-raps-eckhart-tolle-bigtime/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brtanner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terry, IMO, and obviously if one has a basic understanding of how one&#039;s own mind works, the Bible can&#039;t &quot;interpret itself.&quot; Perhaps there are patterns of meaning that emerge &quot;self-referentially&quot; to the reader, but any interpretation is peculiar to the individual, as the words and symbols all point, ultimately, to some &quot;thing&quot; of which mind itself is but a tiny fragment, incapable of comprehending the entirety. No two students of the Bible have exactly the same understanding of its meaning, or even of a given word or symbol. And if you think you do have the &quot;true&quot; understanding, the burden is on you to share the way that it can bring others to &quot;the peace that passeth all understanding,&quot; perhaps enabling them to share that peace with the world, rather than asking them to wait in some kind of mystical and angry befuddlement until a militant Jesus comes back to wreak revenge on those who didn&#039;t get the message right and to set the world in order. Which, apparently, was something he refused to do when he was here before, seeming to want some other kind of understanding to arise.

--- As to the demanding thing, yes, you are demanding that people keep their hands off your private bailiwick of perfected understanding. We are not to &quot;deceive people as to what Jesus taught,&quot; but apparently unless we&#039;re &quot;completely immersed in the Bible,&quot; we&#039;ll never be able understand his teaching -   even the people he taught while here didn&#039;t have the luxury of such immersion. You say &quot;there&#039;s no need to mention the Saviour at all,&quot; yet if someone not of your vetted expertise feels the inclination to talk of how they understand Jesus, then there is such a need, and that&#039;s not for you to decide, unless you use coercive force to stop them. When you assert that he IS &quot;the Saviour,&quot; then you are insisting on an interpretation of scripture that clearly puts our divine source outside of us, rather than within, which is what I think Jesus was teaching. This is absolutely not any kind of &quot;apotheosis,&quot; something Debra Rae was insisting on, and which you are, sarcastically it seems, claiming. No ego raises itself to the level of god. When we awaken, it&#039;s not the ego that &quot;becomes enlightened.&quot; Rather, the fictional nature of the imaginary me is seen through. In all the universe, there is no separation (which, I&#039;m sorry, was what I believe Jesus meant by &quot;I and the father are one,&quot; knowing he was not the apparent egoic character created in mind), and every &quot;thing&quot; in it is supported in every moment by the blessing of that which cannot be named.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, IMO, and obviously if one has a basic understanding of how one&#8217;s own mind works, the Bible can&#8217;t &#8220;interpret itself.&#8221; Perhaps there are patterns of meaning that emerge &#8220;self-referentially&#8221; to the reader, but any interpretation is peculiar to the individual, as the words and symbols all point, ultimately, to some &#8220;thing&#8221; of which mind itself is but a tiny fragment, incapable of comprehending the entirety. No two students of the Bible have exactly the same understanding of its meaning, or even of a given word or symbol. And if you think you do have the &#8220;true&#8221; understanding, the burden is on you to share the way that it can bring others to &#8220;the peace that passeth all understanding,&#8221; perhaps enabling them to share that peace with the world, rather than asking them to wait in some kind of mystical and angry befuddlement until a militant Jesus comes back to wreak revenge on those who didn&#8217;t get the message right and to set the world in order. Which, apparently, was something he refused to do when he was here before, seeming to want some other kind of understanding to arise.</p>
<p>&#8212; As to the demanding thing, yes, you are demanding that people keep their hands off your private bailiwick of perfected understanding. We are not to &#8220;deceive people as to what Jesus taught,&#8221; but apparently unless we&#8217;re &#8220;completely immersed in the Bible,&#8221; we&#8217;ll never be able understand his teaching &#8211;   even the people he taught while here didn&#8217;t have the luxury of such immersion. You say &#8220;there&#8217;s no need to mention the Saviour at all,&#8221; yet if someone not of your vetted expertise feels the inclination to talk of how they understand Jesus, then there is such a need, and that&#8217;s not for you to decide, unless you use coercive force to stop them. When you assert that he IS &#8220;the Saviour,&#8221; then you are insisting on an interpretation of scripture that clearly puts our divine source outside of us, rather than within, which is what I think Jesus was teaching. This is absolutely not any kind of &#8220;apotheosis,&#8221; something Debra Rae was insisting on, and which you are, sarcastically it seems, claiming. No ego raises itself to the level of god. When we awaken, it&#8217;s not the ego that &#8220;becomes enlightened.&#8221; Rather, the fictional nature of the imaginary me is seen through. In all the universe, there is no separation (which, I&#8217;m sorry, was what I believe Jesus meant by &#8220;I and the father are one,&#8221; knowing he was not the apparent egoic character created in mind), and every &#8220;thing&#8221; in it is supported in every moment by the blessing of that which cannot be named.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Debra Rae: Believer Raps Eckhart Tolle Bigtime by Terry</title>
		<link>http://berealtruth.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/debra-rae-believer-raps-eckhart-tolle-bigtime/#comment-39</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &quot;Demanding that someone jump though your particular hoops to make them worthy to talk about the meaning of passages&quot;


No one&#039;s demanding anything. I&#039;m simply telling you the way it is, and why it is. You do not have to like it - and indeed you don&#039;t. 


The Bible interprets itself. The reader is informed that the Word is self-referential; that, no, sorry, you do not have the luxury of your own private interpretation. 


Practice your doctrine of gnostic apotheosis in any way in which you see fit, just as long as you do not deceive people as to what Jesus taught. There&#039;s no need to mention the Saviour at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Demanding that someone jump though your particular hoops to make them worthy to talk about the meaning of passages&#8221;</p>
<p>No one&#8217;s demanding anything. I&#8217;m simply telling you the way it is, and why it is. You do not have to like it &#8211; and indeed you don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>The Bible interprets itself. The reader is informed that the Word is self-referential; that, no, sorry, you do not have the luxury of your own private interpretation. </p>
<p>Practice your doctrine of gnostic apotheosis in any way in which you see fit, just as long as you do not deceive people as to what Jesus taught. There&#8217;s no need to mention the Saviour at all.</p>
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